Job 15-17

Wednesday Evening Bible Study

June 11, 2003

Introduction

God had been bragging about Job, how Job was a mature man who always followed God.  When Satan challenged God and suggested that Job only followed God because God was so good to him, God allowed Satan to touch Job.  And so Job lost just about everything.  He lost all of his wealth.  He lost all of his children.  He’s lost his health.

His friends showed up and for seven days they sat in silence with Job.  When Job finally spoke up, he began by wishing he had never been born.  He poured out his complaint, that he didn’t know why he was having such troubles.  And this seems to have bothered Job’s friends because they had apparently already figured out why Job was having trouble. It was obvious.  Job must have sinned and brought all this trouble on himself.

We’ve been through one round of debates.  Each of Job’s friends has spoken and Job has answered their accusations.

Job 15

:1-16 Job is clueless

:1 Then answered Eliphaz the Temanite, and said,

This begins the second round of debates between Job and his friends.

Eliphaz is the kindest of Job’s friends and is also probably the eldest.  He’s not going to be so kind this time.

:4 Yea, thou castest off fear, and restrainest prayer before God.

Your talk is keeping people from trusting God and praying to Him.

:7 Art thou the first man that was born? or wast thou made before the hills?

(Job 15:7 NLT)  "Were you the first person ever born? Were you born before the hills were made?

Eliphaz is questioning Job’s wisdom in his complaining.  He’s challenging Job in his assumptions, saying that Job is acting like he can tell God what to do, yet he’s actually very small and knows nothing.

This will be pretty much the same thing that God will initially challenge Job on as well.

(Job 38:1-7 KJV)  Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, {2} Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? {3} Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me. {4} Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. {5} Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? {6} Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; {7} When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Lesson

Even those who hurt us wrongly may speak truth

We tend to want to make everything black and white.
If a person is hurting us or misunderstanding us, then everything they say we can throw out and categorize as worthless.
But that’s not correct.
We must continually be asking ourselves, “Is there something I can be learning here?”
Statements aren’t truth because a nice person is speaking.  Statements aren’t false because the person speaking is a jerk.
When the Jews were making their plans to have Jesus arrested and killed, one of the worst men made an amazing statement:
(John 11:47-52 KJV)  Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles. {48} If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation. {49} And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all, {50} Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not. {51} And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation; {52} And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.

If any of the disciples had been in that council at that time, and heard Caiaphas say what he said, how many would have paid much attention to what he said?

Yet he actually spoke truth.

:10 With us are both the grayheaded and very aged men, much elder than thy father.

Eliphaz is reminding Job that these three friends are all older than he is.  He ought to respect them and be paying attention to them.

Lesson

Wisdom and age

If you have to remind people how old and wise you are, there’s a problem.
Someone once said, “When an older man and a younger man are together, the older man should never bring up his age and wisdom, and the younger man should never forget it.”

:11 Are the consolations of God small with thee? is there any secret thing with thee?

(Job 15:11 NLT)  "Is God's comfort too little for you? Is his gentle word not enough?

Lesson

God’s comfort is enough

What Eliphaz is saying is absolutely true.
God’s comfort IS enough.
The problem is in how he probably is saying it.

Lesson

Cheap sweet talk

Eliphaz is implying that he and the others are the ones that God has sent to bring Job comfort.
He’s claiming that they’ve spoken “gently” to Job.
We don’t hear the tone of voice that Eliphaz speaks with.  He may be speaking with a gentle tone of voice, but the words are very, very harsh.
I hate it when people speak quietly and condescendingly to you, as if they have it all figured out, but they are totally wrong.

:15 Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight.

saintsqadowsh – sacred, holy, Holy One, saint, set apart.  Eliphaz may be referring to angels here.

Eliphaz has already said something similar to this:

(Job 4:18 KJV)  Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly:

There are some other similar passages to this in Scripture:

(2 Pet 2:4 KJV)  For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

(Jude 1:6 KJV)  And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

:16 How much more abominable and filthy is man, which drinketh iniquity like water?

Lesson

Reasons for trouble

What Eliphaz is saying is absolutely true.  Man is abominable and sinful.
(Rom 3:9-12 KJV)  What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; {10} As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: {11} There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. {12} They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
(Rom 3:23 KJV)  For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
It is also true that evil things exist in this world because of our sin.  We call this the “curse” that came upon mankind as a result of Adam and Eve’s sin:
(Gen 3:16-19 KJV)  Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. {17} And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; {18} Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; {19} In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
But the problem with Eliphaz’ reasoning is that he too falls into that category.  And if Job is going through his tough time simply because he is a sinful man like everyone else, then how is it that you can say that Job’s problems are caused by his sin when Eliphaz isn’t going through the exact same thing?
The concept that all difficulty is a result of our sin was also prevalent in Jesus’ day.
(John 9:1-7 KJV)  And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. {2} And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? {3} Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. {4} I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. {5} As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.

The disciples thought that the man’s blindness was a result of sin.  Jesus said that the man was born blind in order for God’s work to be manifest through him.

{6} When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay, {7} And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing.

:17-35 The wicked will perish

:24 Trouble and anguish shall make him afraid

There may be some wicked people who are terrified of what the future holds, but I don’t think this is a thing that is common to all wicked people.

:26 He runneth upon him, even on his neck, upon the thick bosses of his bucklers:

The wicked thinks he can even get away with fighting with God.

(Job 15:26 NASB)  "He rushes headlong at Him With his massive shield.

:27 Because he covereth his face with his fatness, and maketh collops of fat on his flanks.

(Job 15:27 ICB)  "The evil person's face is covered with fat. His waist is fat with flesh.

:35 They conceive mischief, and bring forth vanity …

This is a pretty low blow.  Eliphaz is accusing Job of being the very cause of all his troubles.  He’s saying that Job is the “hypocrite” (vs. 34) that is resulting in the destruction around him.

Lesson

God will judge the ungodly

What Eliphaz is saying is absolutely true as objective truth.
God will one day judge the world.
Even though an ungodly person may prosper and become rich and fat in this world, they will one day stand before God in judgment.
The problem is that this truth does not apply to Job.

Lesson

Don’t count on it now

If you think that a wicked person is always going to be caught and brought down in this life, you are going to be disappointed.
This is why the Psalmist had such a struggle:
(Psa 73:3-4 KJV)  For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked. {4} For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.
There are going to be some people who will live comfortable, luxurious lives in their wicked wealth, and you’re going to wonder how this could be fair.
The truth is that the judgment will come, but for some, it may not come until after they die.
One of the things Eliphaz is trying to say is that if you turn from your sins, then life will be happy and wonderful and you will have no problems.
But this is false.
This is the very thing that Satan was challenging God with, that Job only served God because God blessed Job.
Concept:  We shouldn’t serve God because life will be better.  We should serve God because He is God.

Lesson

How do you look at suffering people?

I’ve been starting to find myself looking at suffering people a little differently now.
At the Pastors’ Conference you find yourself in all sorts of conversations.  Sometimes it’s with old friends that you catch up with.  Sometimes it’s meeting new friends at lunch and hearing their story.
I noticed my reactions starting to change when I would hear stories of sorrow and suffering.
I spend some time with one old dear friend who has gone through much since I last talked with him a few years back.  He had already gone through some pretty traumatic things in his life in ministry.  The last I’d heard, he had been pastoring a small church with a lot of senior adults.  He’s a guy my age.  His wife is a talented musician and was his worship leader.  She left him to join a rock band and find fame and fortune in the world.  She’s left her relationship with God, and her family.  She has ended up marrying the guitar player in the new band.  Devastated, my friend resigned as pastor.

As he shared all this with me, I couldn’t help but think of the things we’ve been looking at in Job.  Though a part of me wants to analyze his story and find out what he did wrong to cause all this trouble, I sensed the Lord showing me that he was going through things just like Job.  I couldn’t help but wonder if this wasn’t a man that the Lord was proud of, a man who could stand great troubles.  He has a wonderful attitude about it all.  He isn’t bitter towards his ex-wife or the Lord.  He just wants to serve Jesus.

Job 16

:1-5 Miserable comforters

:2 I have heard many such things: miserable comforters are ye all.

miserable‘amal – toil, trouble, labour; mischief

comfortersnacham – to be sorry, console oneself; (Piel) to comfort, console

With friends like these, who needs enemies?

:3 what emboldeneth thee that thou answerest?

Why do you keep on saying these things?

:5 But I would strengthen you with my mouth, and the moving of my lips should asswage your grief.

strengthen ‘amats – to be strong, alert, courageous, brave, stout, bold, solid, hard; (Piel) to strengthen, secure (for oneself), harden (heart), make firm, make obstinate, assure

asswagechasak – to withhold, restrain, hold back, keep in check, refrain

Lesson

Ministry to others

Job tells his friends what he would do if he were in their shoes.
Exhortation – our words should bring hope to others.  They should stir up courage and strength in those we speak to.
Comfort – our words should act as a dam for the flood of grief the other person is feeling.

:6-16 Surrounded by wicked people

:7 But now he hath made me weary: thou hast made desolate all my company.

It seems that Job is addressing God here:

(Job 16:7 NLT)  "O God, you have ground me down and devastated my family.

:8 And thou hast filled me with wrinkles

(Job 16:8 NLT)  You have reduced me to skin and bones--as proof, they say, of my sins.

:13 His archers compass me round about

God has His archers aiming at me.

:15 defiled my horn in the dust.

The “horn” was a symbol of power.  Perhaps the idea is that the “power” is humiliated.

(Job 16:15 NLT)  Here I sit in sackcloth. I have surrendered, and I sit in the dust.

:17-22 Struggling to trust God

Lesson

God and friends

Job is learning a valuable but difficult lesson.
There are going to be times when all the people that you have learned to count on won’t be there for you.
“You’ll never know the Lord is all you need, until the Lord is all you have.”
Corrie Ten Boom

Lesson

Jesus will plead for you.

He is the one who can plead with God (vs. 21).
He is our advocate, our “defense attorney”.
(1 John 2:1-2 KJV)  My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: {2} And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
Some of you may have been following the Laci Petersen case.  The husband, Scott, has been arrested and charged with the murder of his wife and unborn son.  It’s a horrible, tragic case.  Up until a month ago, it seems that Scott was already tried and found guilty in the press.  Every report made it sound completely obvious that he killed his wife.  But when this attorney Mark Garregos decided to help Scott out and become his defense attorney, things have turned around in the media.  Whether or not you think that Scott is guilty, he is now a man with an advocate.  He has someone working hard to defend him.
As our advocate, Jesus won’t be lying or doing anything inappropriate.  But He will plead for you before the Father.  He will tell the Father that even though you are guilty, the price has already been paid in your case.  Jesus has paid the price for us.
He continually prays for us, interceding with the Father on our behalf.
(Heb 7:25 KJV)  Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

Job 17

:1-9 Job prays

:1 My breath is corrupt, my days are extinct, the graves are ready for me.

Job doesn’t mean that he has bad breath.

breathruwach – wind, breath, mind, spirit

corruptchabal – (Pual) to be ruined, be broken

:3 Lay down now, put me in a surety with thee; who is he that will strike hands with me?

(Job 17:3 NLT)  "You must defend my innocence, O God, since no one else will stand up for me.

Job is praying again.

:5 He that speaketh flattery to his friends, even the eyes of his children shall fail.

speakethnagad – (Hiphil) to tell, declare; make known, expound; to publish, declare, proclaim; to avow, acknowledge, confess

flatterycheleq – portion, share, part, territory; smoothness, seductiveness, flattery

(Job 17:5 NLT)  They denounce their companions for their own advantage, so let their children faint with hunger.

:6 He hath made me also a byword of the people; and aforetime I was as a tabret.

tabrettopheth – act of spitting, spit

(Job 17:6 NKJV)  "But He has made me a byword of the people, And I have become one in whose face men spit.

:8 Upright men shall be astonied at this

astoniedshamem – to be desolate, be appalled, stun, stupefy; astonished

Good people will be astonished at the things that have happened to Job.

:9 The righteous also shall hold on his way

Lesson

Keep going

Good people will be astonished, but they will keep doing what is right.
When we see righteous people suffer, we get confused.
We need to keep doing what it right.

:10-16 I’m hopeless

:10 But as for you all, do ye return

Job tells his friends to go home.

Lesson

Learning graciousness

We talked earlier about how to survive trials.
One of our points was that we must learn to be gracious to those who hurt us.
But Job is having a hard time being gracious at this point.
He’s being mean right back to his friends.
Yet there will be a day when God will ask him to pray for his friends.

:16 They shall go down to the bars of the pit, when our rest together is in the dust.

A lovely note to end on.  Not!!!

Lesson

Our hope is in Jesus

We need to be careful as to where we put our hopes.
If we put our hopes in our circumstances getting better or changing to be what we dream they could be, we may end up being disappointed.
But if our hope is in Jesus, we’ll never be disappointed.
We need to keep our eyes on the rewards that Jesus has for us, knowing that He will make everything worthwhile, but not necessarily in this life.
(2 Cor 4:7-18 NLT)  But this precious treasure--this light and power that now shine within us--is held in perishable containers, that is, in our weak bodies. So everyone can see that our glorious power is from God and is not our own. {8} We are pressed on every side by troubles, but we are not crushed and broken. We are perplexed, but we don't give up and quit. {9} We are hunted down, but God never abandons us. We get knocked down, but we get up again and keep going. {10} Through suffering, these bodies of ours constantly share in the death of Jesus so that the life of Jesus may also be seen in our bodies. {11} Yes, we live under constant danger of death because we serve Jesus, so that the life of Jesus will be obvious in our dying bodies. {12} So we live in the face of death, but it has resulted in eternal life for you. {13} But we continue to preach because we have the same kind of faith the psalmist had when he said, "I believed in God, and so I speak." {14} We know that the same God who raised our Lord Jesus will also raise us with Jesus and present us to himself along with you. {15} All of these things are for your benefit. And as God's grace brings more and more people to Christ, there will be great thanksgiving, and God will receive more and more glory. {16} That is why we never give up. Though our bodies are dying, our spirits are being renewed every day. {17} For our present troubles are quite small and won't last very long. Yet they produce for us an immeasurably great glory that will last forever! {18} So we don't look at the troubles we can see right now; rather, we look forward to what we have not yet seen. For the troubles we see will soon be over, but the joys to come will last forever.
Illustration
An old missionary couple had been working in Africa for years and were returning to New York to retire. They had no pension; their health was broken; they were defeated, discouraged, and afraid. They discovered they were booked on the same ship as President Teddy Roosevelt, who was returning from one of his big-game hunting expeditions.
No one paid any attention to them. They watched the fanfare that accompanied the President’s entourage, with passengers trying to catch a glimpse of the great man.
As the ship moved across the ocean, the old missionary said to his wife, “Something is wrong. Why should we have given our lives in faithful service for God in Africa all these many years and have no one care a thing about us? Here this man comes back from a hunting trip and everybody makes much over him, but nobody gives two hoots about us.”
“Dear, you shouldn’t feel that way,” his wife said.
“I can’t help it; it doesn’t seem right.”
When the ship docked in New York, a band was waiting to greet the President. The mayor and other dignitaries were there. The papers were full of the President’s arrival, but no one noticed this missionary couple. They slipped off the ship and found a cheap flat on the East Side, hoping the next day to see what they could do to make a living in the city.
That night the man’s spirit broke. He said to his wife, “I can’t take this; God is not treating us fairly.”
His wife replied, “Why don’t you go in the bedroom and tell that to the Lord?”
A short time later he came out from the bedroom, but now his face was completely different. His wife asked, “Dear, what happened?”
“The Lord settled it with me,” he said. “I told him how bitter I was that the President should receive this tremendous homecoming, when no one met us as we returned home. And when I finished, it seemed as though the Lord put his hand on my shoulder and simply said, ‘But you’re not home yet!’”

-- Ray Stedman, Talking to My Father